1 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:12,290 You can do that. 2 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:07,930 Hello. You must be the reporter. 3 00:01:09,650 --> 00:01:11,110 And you must be Mr. 4 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:12,330 Stinson. 5 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:15,090 Please, just call me James. 6 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:17,410 Okay. 7 00:01:19,630 --> 00:01:20,630 Where are my manners? 8 00:01:21,130 --> 00:01:22,130 Please, come in. 9 00:01:46,580 --> 00:01:48,200 Aren't you a little bit young for a reporter? 10 00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:58,100 Maybe. I'm 22, but everyone I know says I have an old soul, 11 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,320 so... 12 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Where would you like to do this? 13 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Wherever you're comfortable. 14 00:02:10,820 --> 00:02:12,780 In here, Luke. Fine. 15 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:28,720 So do you mind if I record this? 16 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,720 No, please. 17 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:33,060 I am tired of being misquoted. 18 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:35,740 Understandable. 19 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Okay. 20 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,060 First things first. 21 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:49,740 Why, after all this time, did you decide to do your first face -to -face 22 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:53,760 interview with a small -town college newspaper after... 23 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,760 avoiding the press for years. 24 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:04,280 You're not the first person to call me on the anniversary of the crime, but you 25 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,840 are the first person to call me and tell me that they believe I'm not guilty. 26 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:14,280 The first person to offer to let me tell my side of the story. 27 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:22,840 As you know, it was all over the news. 28 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:25,470 It's all that anybody could talk about. 29 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:28,650 Morning and night, 24 hours a day, every channel. 30 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:30,510 Mr. Stinson's murder. 31 00:03:34,970 --> 00:03:39,990 Guilty until proven innocent by a jury of your peers, I guess. 32 00:03:42,510 --> 00:03:49,230 It's a very, very isolating place to be. Very lonely existence. 33 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,920 I can imagine. 34 00:03:53,460 --> 00:04:00,320 Well, maybe we can try to dispel some of those things. And once this 35 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,520 story comes out, people will finally see the truth. 36 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:12,560 So tell me on the record, are you guilty? 37 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Am I guilty? 38 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,480 Of course I'm guilty. 39 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:36,580 Guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 40 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:44,120 I was the last person seen with... Darlene Davis. 41 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:46,460 Yeah, Darlene Davis. 42 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:50,520 I replay over and over. 43 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:55,230 In my head, being at the club that night, being seen with her, 44 00:04:55,370 --> 00:05:01,810 I try to forget that moment. 45 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:12,430 Explain to me, if you will, the blood found all 46 00:05:12,430 --> 00:05:13,450 over her shirt. 47 00:05:13,970 --> 00:05:17,730 The one that I found. 48 00:05:18,410 --> 00:05:24,650 Noted in the police evidence as taken from the scene of a non -consensual 49 00:05:24,650 --> 00:05:27,210 sex act. 50 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:30,610 Non -consensual. 51 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:38,870 Look, I'll explain it to you the same way that I explained it to the police. 52 00:05:39,450 --> 00:05:40,450 With truth. 53 00:05:40,930 --> 00:05:42,170 He had a nosebleed. 54 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:47,120 We were together dancing that night at the club. She got close to me. She bled 55 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,120 on my shirt. 56 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,000 What I want to know is why the news isn't reporting and didn't report that 57 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,380 was an avid drug user who was prone to nosebleeds. 58 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Okay. 59 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,660 Well, the police pulled the security footage from the club that night. 60 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:12,140 You gave them full consent. 61 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:19,420 to search your entire home, where they found Darlene's shirt, which would 62 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:21,180 lead to your arrest and trial. 63 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:28,460 Why would you lead the police here knowing that there was that piece of 64 00:06:28,460 --> 00:06:31,460 that would put you at the scene that night? 65 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,020 Why would I hide the shirt unless I knew it was a piece of evidence? 66 00:06:36,580 --> 00:06:39,600 I had no reason to not invite those police into my house. 67 00:06:40,910 --> 00:06:43,830 Look, when I left that woman, she was alive. 68 00:06:48,430 --> 00:06:49,430 Okay. 69 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:56,470 Then why did you lie to the police about where you went after you left the club 70 00:06:56,470 --> 00:06:58,030 that night if you had nothing to hide? 71 00:06:58,410 --> 00:07:03,550 I've seen enough cop shows to know that the police are more than willing to pin 72 00:07:03,550 --> 00:07:07,110 a murder on an innocent person that was in the wrong place at the wrong time. 73 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:09,570 That's why I told them I went to go get a hamburger. 74 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:12,300 It's a stupid mistake. 75 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,380 Something that I will regret for the rest of my life. 76 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:25,060 Well, you can see why that story sounds a little thin, right? 77 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,600 And then you coincidentally take the route back 78 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,500 to your home that was the most out of the way. 79 00:07:39,220 --> 00:07:45,240 oddly enough, in the part of town that had no cameras on the traffic light. 80 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Turn that off. 81 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:55,220 Okay. 82 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,080 What is this? 83 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Hmm? 84 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:06,920 You said you were coming here. 85 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,480 to let me tell my side of the story, not to berate me, not to go over the facts 86 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,340 again, and not to reprove my guilt to everyone else. 87 00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:22,080 If there's something going on here, if you have an ulterior motive that you're 88 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,660 not telling me about, there is going to be a problem. 89 00:08:26,780 --> 00:08:29,500 No, not at all. 90 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:36,580 I believe that you're innocent, but with my job. 91 00:08:37,870 --> 00:08:39,850 I have to ask the hard questions. 92 00:08:41,409 --> 00:08:43,330 I hope you understand. 93 00:09:20,650 --> 00:09:21,810 Do you want a glass of water? 94 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:24,870 Sure. 95 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:26,430 Sure. 96 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:35,510 Thank you. 97 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,520 back to the night of the murder just to clear up any misconceptions. 98 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:03,060 Give me your recount of that night. 99 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,660 Well, I wanted to go out that night. I had a long week at work. 100 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:16,520 I just needed to get something off my chest, I guess. 101 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,320 But none of my friends wanted to go out to the club. They all were... 102 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:23,010 Sitting around boring, I don't know, at this point. 103 00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:25,530 But I went, and I went alone. 104 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:28,570 That's where I met Darlene. 105 00:10:30,750 --> 00:10:35,890 We danced a little bit, had a couple of cocktails, and then I went home. 106 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:37,870 Alone. 107 00:10:42,110 --> 00:10:44,790 Tell me about Darlene. 108 00:10:46,090 --> 00:10:48,750 How was she that night? Was she... 109 00:10:50,579 --> 00:10:54,840 Happy to take some off, get a sense of her. 110 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,020 I mean, how much of a sense of a person can you get in a loud, crowded bar? 111 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:05,560 I mean, we were, we exchanged a few words. 112 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:09,500 You know, we got a little intimate, a little close, danced. 113 00:11:11,740 --> 00:11:13,400 You know, nothing out of the ordinary. 114 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:20,900 I didn't get a sense of her at all. 115 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,240 Why all this interest in Darlene? 116 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:31,480 Just trying to get a sense of the victim as well. 117 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,100 Like I already said, you can only get to know a person so much in that kind of 118 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:55,100 environment. 119 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,860 But there is one thing that I can tell you about her. 120 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,280 She had a certain kind of reputation. 121 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:15,700 Reputation for being the kind of whore that would do anything for 122 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:16,700 a fix. 123 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:23,530 Some people might even say that she got what she deserved that night 124 00:12:23,530 --> 00:12:30,510 I Need to use 125 00:12:30,510 --> 00:12:31,510 your restroom 126 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:06,720 You'll have to excuse me for running off like that. 127 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,780 I think I had something that drips at my stomach. 128 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:12,460 It's quite all right. 129 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,420 I'm used to people running away from me. 130 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,700 I'd like to continue the interview, if that's fine. 131 00:13:32,140 --> 00:13:33,840 Get a little bit more... 132 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:36,740 Inside your head? 133 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:42,640 Is that why you sat close to me? 134 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:45,480 Because you want to get more personal? 135 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Is that alright? 136 00:13:49,660 --> 00:13:52,240 I don't think getting personal with me is a very good idea. 137 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:57,440 Well, I think it would be good for the interview. 138 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:00,180 Do you mind if I continue? 139 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:16,770 Now tell me, how did you feel when you were convicted 140 00:14:16,770 --> 00:14:21,090 of that horrible, brutal murder? 141 00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:27,110 I felt alone. 142 00:14:29,050 --> 00:14:31,990 I felt more alone than I've ever felt in my entire life. 143 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:37,130 I felt what real fear felt like. 144 00:14:38,190 --> 00:14:39,370 I felt... 145 00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:41,340 Anger. 146 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,000 I felt rage. 147 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Terrible. 148 00:14:52,340 --> 00:14:54,000 I know the feeling. 149 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:05,080 You see, my mother died when I 150 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,340 was very young. 151 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:17,230 And while most of my childhood was a blur, I do remember feeling 152 00:15:17,230 --> 00:15:22,230 loneliness, confusion, 153 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:26,710 fear, anger. 154 00:15:30,390 --> 00:15:33,730 I felt like I was the only one in the world that felt that way. 155 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,860 And then I started having other feelings creep 156 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:49,860 into my mind. 157 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Darkness. 158 00:15:57,820 --> 00:16:02,180 It was this thing that just started to grow inside me. 159 00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:06,020 And I was so scared. 160 00:16:12,590 --> 00:16:15,370 I never ran away from it. 161 00:16:16,630 --> 00:16:18,350 I ran towards it. 162 00:16:21,790 --> 00:16:23,270 And I embraced it. 163 00:16:27,130 --> 00:16:29,750 You know what darkness I'm talking about. 164 00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:34,850 It lives inside you. 165 00:16:35,950 --> 00:16:37,150 Thought in it, James. 166 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:41,190 And you acted on it. 167 00:16:43,050 --> 00:16:45,550 That night, all those years ago. 168 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:53,030 Are you saying that you think that... I don't think anything. 169 00:16:54,450 --> 00:16:57,230 I know you love that woman. 170 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,070 Who the fuck is this shit? 171 00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:08,270 You said you were gonna come here and let me tell my side of the story. 172 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:10,470 You said you were gonna be different. 173 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,680 I know what I said. 174 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,500 And I am different. 175 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,880 I'm so much different than all of those other bullshit reporters. 176 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,339 You're the reason why I became a reporter. 177 00:17:26,619 --> 00:17:27,640 Because of you. 178 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:34,100 I loved your story and I just wanted to come and see you. And 179 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:39,840 all of my hard work has been for this moment right here. 180 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:42,130 I wanted to know everything. 181 00:17:42,490 --> 00:17:49,430 And, yeah, I lied. But I knew that you would never even consider meeting me 182 00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:53,910 if I didn't say that I didn't think that you were guilty. You have to 183 00:17:53,910 --> 00:18:00,210 understand, please. I needed you to tell me. No, show me everything that you 184 00:18:00,210 --> 00:18:01,210 deserve. 185 00:18:01,790 --> 00:18:03,910 Every little detail. 186 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:09,150 I'm not going to do that. I'm not playing this sick fucking game you're 187 00:18:09,150 --> 00:18:10,150 no, no. 188 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Please, like, we have a connection. 189 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:14,660 You and me. 190 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,880 A bond. 191 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,340 And I came all this way for you to show me. No. 192 00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:22,399 What'd you do? 193 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,380 No. Did he fight you? No. Was she this close? Was she screaming? 194 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,500 No. Show me. Show me! 195 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,360 Stop this. Show me, please! 196 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:32,500 Please! Is this what you want? 197 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:34,720 Is this the monster you want? 198 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:44,360 Yes, show me what you did to her. 199 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Yes. 200 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,140 Did you hold her down like this? 201 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:58,100 Show me who you really are. 202 00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:18,010 to be a piece of fucking meat? 203 00:19:18,450 --> 00:19:19,910 Huh? Huh? 204 00:19:20,370 --> 00:19:25,470 I would like to hear personal decisions taken away from you. 205 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Fucking twat. 206 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,680 look at me just like she did. 207 00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:03,030 You know that? 208 00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:06,530 Such an innocent life. 209 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:14,730 Yes. Yes. 210 00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:16,850 The climate of it. 211 00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:22,230 I want you to put it inside your little body. 212 00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:35,350 I'm scared for help. 213 00:44:36,010 --> 00:44:37,770 Get someone to send you there. 214 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:39,990 It never works. 215 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,440 What happened to you? 216 00:53:24,580 --> 00:53:26,400 What did you do to yourself? 217 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:31,220 I didn't do this to me. 218 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,840 You did this to me. 219 00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:40,820 What the fuck are you talking about? 220 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,980 You're so easy to fool. 221 00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:51,350 Do you not even think to Google me? 222 00:53:53,350 --> 00:53:59,030 There are no Lois Browns that look anything like me. 223 00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:00,470 Oh, no. 224 00:54:00,830 --> 00:54:01,830 And this? 225 00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:05,210 I'm not getting rid of this. 226 00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:08,730 The police are going to want to analyze it when they get here. 227 00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:10,230 The police? 228 00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:12,670 Yeah, the police. 229 00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:16,230 You see, James? 230 00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:21,150 When a crying girl calls the police and tells them that she's being sexually 231 00:54:21,150 --> 00:54:23,930 assaulted... I did not sexually assault you. 232 00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:32,070 But James... Your handprints are all over my throat. 233 00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:34,150 I'm covered in your DNA. 234 00:54:34,830 --> 00:54:36,850 I mean, God, look at my face. 235 00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:42,710 And this time... I'm alive to testify. 236 00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:45,410 Unlike my mom. 237 00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:48,500 Your mom? 238 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:50,720 Yes. 239 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,080 Darlene Davis, ring a bell? 240 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,180 She was my mother. 241 00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:00,640 You fucking bitch. 242 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,020 No, no, no, no, no. Let's not make any rash decisions. 243 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,640 Look, wait! 244 00:55:06,860 --> 00:55:10,120 The police are going to be here any minute. 245 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,600 You don't have any time to hide the body. 246 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,160 You're already going away on a sexual assault charge. Do you really want to go 247 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,840 away on another murder? 248 00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:27,760 You fucking killed her, and now I fuck you. I've got everything. 249 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,820 Your life, your freedom. 250 00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:31,760 It's fucking over. 251 00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:41,480 Bitch, I'm going to fucking erase you the same way I did your whore mother. 252 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,140 Maybe Sunday.